wow!... how bad... i was just wondering... will it ever be a brazilian number to send messeg to... becos sending messeges to the internacional number i've got is a lil bit expensive.
Thanks for the info. I thought it might be something like that. US Cellular here. Would some sort of email gateway work? Most phones can text messages to an email address. The email could then be picked up somehow by jaiku.. possibly? I currently do this with my drupal website.
If you get the activation message, you should also be able to send the message. The number should be given as
+467374960501
That is, the first character is the letter 'plus'.
Could you please tell us if it works? SMS is store-and-forward, but the message should be visible in a few minutes (usually something like 10-15 seconds).
Same thing here...have tried several times to activate my Sprint phone, but not receiving the message. Glad to hear I'm not the only one having trouble :)
OK, thanks for all the comments and keep them coming. It seems that at least Verizon and Sprint are blocking the traffic, or has any subscriber of either of those got any text messages from Jaiku? How about posting to Jaiku?
The evidence seems to be it may be a CDMA vs GSM issue. Verizon, Sprint and US Cellular are all on the CDMA network in the states. I've had problems before with traffic between CDMA and GSM carriers.
The permanent solution for the problem is the US short number, but we're working on interim ones.
I'd have one short number related question: We own the short number JAIKU, i.e. 52458, but what do you think, should we rarther get someting that is easier to remember as numbers like 54321 or 10101 or 22333?
Unfortunately, it takes some weeks to open the short code; this process is much slower in the US than in the rest of the world, because carriers want to evaluate the service after which they are enabled one-by-one. (That's why we working on an interim solution.) When the number is open, however, you can say goodbye to international TXT rates.
Hey Petteri I don't think you ought to invest in a new number, 52458 would be fine. I am also looking foreward to the Java app for my Blackberry. I think the app will make it alot easier to keep up to date (location @home). So far you have a very nice service.
Hi guys, we've had experience with our own mobile service and access to US networks. You're almost for sure having a GSM v CDMA/TDMA network issue. The explanation I got was that although the message gets delivered to their network there's no way to know if they actually send it through to the handset and there are no delivery reciepts back to tell you the status.
Instead of the hassle of a US shortcode there's another option we're trying which is to just get yourself a US GSM sim card from T-Mobile and have it hosted by your SMS provider, we haven't tried it out yet but in theory should work and give you access to all U.S. networks.
This is another royal PITA for us Verizon owners. We pay dearly for their blank-blank service... and to be shut out again on something else isn't making be feel so friendly towards them.
Sprint is CDMA so that is your problem rather than blocking, it's just incompatible with some European GSM services. Hang on in there I'm sure the Jaiku guys have a solution in the works.
A list of providers that are GSM and therefore should work in the US is below. Anything else no on the list i.e. Verizon Sprint etc are most likely CDMA/TDMA based and therefore not going to work.
Aerial (1900)
Ameritech Cellular Services
AT&T Wireless PCS, LLC
Bellsouth
Cincinnati Bell Wireless
Cingular Wireless
Eliska Wireless, Inc
Eliska Wireless Ventures
Nextel International (iDEN)
Pac Bell
PCS One Inc.
Powertel
Teleport Communications Group
T-Mobile USA, Inc
Could there be a way that we're given a code on the website, and we then have to text that code FROM our phone to Jaiku? Might be a workaround for Verizon users, like me... (don't know if the messages will go the other way...)
@chronodin I think it's the same both ways for them unfortuantly, messages from CDMA/TDMA networks won't make it back to their number, they'll never receive it.
I've been speaking with with Ericsson IPX our service provider every day this week to speed up the shortcode acquisition process. But (as I'm sure you all know, from your dealings with the operators), they're not the most.... agile of commercial entities.
Before the shortcode has been activated, we can manually confirm your phone numbers and after that you will be able to text updates to your stream by texting our international number at +467374960501.
If you can receive texts from our international number, then you can activate SMS notifications by texting ON. Text OFF to stop notifications. We'll add the SMS notifications checkbox on the Web under Settings -> Notifications shortly.
Thanks for your patience everyone - this is our top concern. Andrew will be on call to do activations manually while I keep working on the shortcode.
We don't have a good solution here yet - but we're working on it. Until we have a good one, here's what we can do.
If you're waiting on an activation message that never arrived, then email me - andrew@jaiku.com - with your cell number (as you provided it to us) and jaiiku username.
I'll manually 'fake' the activation process so you should be able to use the SMS functionality to at least post using SMS (but if your carrier's blocking messages from us, you still won't be able to get updates from your friends that way) while we wait for the carriers to activate the shortcode we've been trying to arrange for the last few months.
ThinkHammmer - the owners (and staff) use the service daily. We only use the jaiku account when we're talking on behalf of the company. If you'd rather hear from us more frequently, I'm sure that's something that can be arranged :)
SMS posting/receiving (not critical to me) is one area where Twitter is kickin' Jaiku's behind. I am a Verizon CDMA customer, and it just worked, from day one.
rjefferies - that's the downside of Jaiku being a non-US based company. Annoyingly, the US cellular networks seem to be remarkably insular. I'm based in New Zealand, and both Jaiku and Twitter SMS services worked for me straight off.
comment notifications are temporary disabled for threads with more than 10 people in them (while we work on a proper unsubscribe feature), they'll still show in your overview page though.
also, activations can now be texted in (won't show up in the ui in the welcome process though) just send the 4 letter code back to jaiku
I use Rogers, GSM based system, but I don't think that a text message is dependent on the protocol , ie. GSM or CDMA. I think it is that some carriers have different delivery times
I couldn't say. Twitter and direct phone to phone texts are VERY fast. Less than a minute for phone>twitter>phone. Less than 10 seconds for phone>phone
It's a complicated mess.. I know in the US.. CDMA and GSM carriers do not co-operate. That means throwing up walls till the courts tear them down. What happens in the rest of the world is a mystery to me. I do know that email seems to work everyplace.. perhaps an email gateway of same sort could fix all this? But, it would be a bit more work.. I have the luxury of having my own web site and can rss feeds to jaiku after email posting from my phone to my web site..
I think it has to do with spam blocking, I've requested Verizon allow Jaiku, but we should all do the same. At any rate, a work around may be to use your phones own email address to get updates to the phone. You'd do this by using the email address 5554449999@vzwpix.com (this is their MMS address, which supports larger messages than vtext.com which is purely sms). Now, why Jaiku can't just use the SMS gateway, I have no idea. Verizon and others have had this gateway in place for a long time.
I'm not receiving my activation message from Bell Canada. Is there any way around this? Also my phone appears to be unable to make a "+" character for SMS #'s.
76 comments so far
Verizon must be one of those... thanks for working on it.
2 years, 7 months ago by CookieDuster
You're right, we've got quite a few reports from Verizon users.
2 years, 7 months ago by petteri
wow!... how bad... i was just wondering... will it ever be a brazilian number to send messeg to... becos sending messeges to the internacional number i've got is a lil bit expensive.
2 years, 7 months ago by Betushco
are there any hacks / workarounds for us verizon users? I really want to be able to use my LG VX9900 which has a full qwerty. thanks.
2 years, 7 months ago by bdeseattle
I'm on T-Mobile USA. I was able to activate my SMS.
2 years, 7 months ago by jl2im
Sprint here. Still waiting on the activation #.
2 years, 7 months ago by jumptronic
Maybe it's only GSM friendly and the rest of us suffer?
Please, let it be fixed soon.
2 years, 7 months ago by Tydna
Also on Sprint and awaiting activation number.
2 years, 7 months ago by bemick
I'd say if no one on Cingular or T-Mobile has had a problems, it must be a GSM v. TDMA/CDMA thing. Then again, I could be wrong.
2 years, 7 months ago by Tydna
Yeah, been trying for 2 days. Though I get SMS activation codes from other clients (LJ, Twitter, etc).
2 years, 7 months ago by jbro
Verizon here, I too have been having problems.
2 years, 7 months ago by tylermckenzie
Thanks for the info. I thought it might be something like that. US Cellular here. Would some sort of email gateway work? Most phones can text messages to an email address. The email could then be picked up somehow by jaiku.. possibly? I currently do this with my drupal website.
2 years, 7 months ago by dpotts
Having issues with Sprint
2 years, 7 months ago by sanford
If you get the activation message, you should also be able to send the message. The number should be given as
+467374960501
That is, the first character is the letter 'plus'.
Could you please tell us if it works? SMS is store-and-forward, but the message should be visible in a few minutes (usually something like 10-15 seconds).
2 years, 7 months ago by petteri
I can verify Verizon is a no-go. I just tried signing up and my verification never came ...triple checked my phone number just in case ;)
2 years, 7 months ago by sgreth
Same thing here...have tried several times to activate my Sprint phone, but not receiving the message. Glad to hear I'm not the only one having trouble :)
2 years, 7 months ago by brianc
how about getting a text number that doesn't cost me 5 cents a message :)
2 years, 7 months ago by danhendricks
do you thinks 5 cents its a los? y pai 83 cents
2 years, 6 months ago by Betushco
Also on Sprint and waiting for an activation code.
2 years, 6 months ago by Glohamar
@danhendricks -- if you're paying $0.05 a pop, then why would you even want to bother with mobilizing Jaiku? I'd recommend getting on a TXTing plan.
2 years, 6 months ago by Tydna
I use Sprint and it works with a bunch of other SMS services. Have sent the Jaiku code twice and not received anything.
2 years, 6 months ago by rubyji
@Tydna: I have unlimited text messaging on T-Mobile with my sidekick, but international SMS costs extra.
2 years, 6 months ago by danhendricks
OK, thanks for all the comments and keep them coming. It seems that at least Verizon and Sprint are blocking the traffic, or has any subscriber of either of those got any text messages from Jaiku? How about posting to Jaiku?
2 years, 6 months ago by petteri
@danhendricks -- Ahhhh...gotcha. :)
2 years, 6 months ago by Tydna
The evidence seems to be it may be a CDMA vs GSM issue. Verizon, Sprint and US Cellular are all on the CDMA network in the states. I've had problems before with traffic between CDMA and GSM carriers.
2 years, 6 months ago by dpotts
On Cingular/ATT; was able to activate my phone, but my SMS to jaiku never seems to show up
2 years, 6 months ago by herdsman
As an aside, there should be a way to UNsubscribe from particular "presences" or threads on Jaiku. :(
2 years, 6 months ago by Tydna
Word up, Tydna. Thank god gmail groups message threads.
2 years, 6 months ago by jumptronic
Three attempts, zero incoming via Verizon. Hope this is temporary.
2 years, 6 months ago by galexi
I am trying to change my profile picture .. but it will not upload the new one ....
2 years, 6 months ago by Davidg
Anyone solve the problem with Sprint?
2 years, 6 months ago by sanford
Bad Verizon Bad
2 years, 6 months ago by Carignan
The permanent solution for the problem is the US short number, but we're working on interim ones.
I'd have one short number related question: We own the short number JAIKU, i.e. 52458, but what do you think, should we rarther get someting that is easier to remember as numbers like 54321 or 10101 or 22333?
2 years, 6 months ago by petteri
so we can use that number now and not have to worry about international TXT rates?
2 years, 6 months ago by danhendricks
Unfortunately, it takes some weeks to open the short code; this process is much slower in the US than in the rest of the world, because carriers want to evaluate the service after which they are enabled one-by-one. (That's why we working on an interim solution.) When the number is open, however, you can say goodbye to international TXT rates.
2 years, 6 months ago by petteri
OK.. that's excellent.
2 years, 6 months ago by danhendricks
Hey Petteri I don't think you ought to invest in a new number, 52458 would be fine. I am also looking foreward to the Java app for my Blackberry. I think the app will make it alot easier to keep up to date (location @home). So far you have a very nice service.
2 years, 6 months ago by Carignan
Hi guys, we've had experience with our own mobile service and access to US networks. You're almost for sure having a GSM v CDMA/TDMA network issue. The explanation I got was that although the message gets delivered to their network there's no way to know if they actually send it through to the handset and there are no delivery reciepts back to tell you the status.
Instead of the hassle of a US shortcode there's another option we're trying which is to just get yourself a US GSM sim card from T-Mobile and have it hosted by your SMS provider, we haven't tried it out yet but in theory should work and give you access to all U.S. networks.
2 years, 6 months ago by paulstringer
I think just use the short number you currently have.. I know I would just store it in my contacts and never punch it in manually anyways.
2 years, 6 months ago by dpotts
This is another royal PITA for us Verizon owners. We pay dearly for their blank-blank service... and to be shut out again on something else isn't making be feel so friendly towards them.
2 years, 6 months ago by HelloMaryLu
I use Centennial (http://www.centennialwireless.com/index2.php) and it is a no go for me too.
2 years, 6 months ago by bbyrdhouse
Alltel doesn't seem to work either, they are also CDMA.
2 years, 6 months ago by krisguy
is there an ETA on the blackberry java app since i can't get Verizon authenticated?
2 years, 6 months ago by caparks
An open API is going to help get developers get some apps out for users. Blackberry users first though.
2 years, 6 months ago by Carignan
Helio here. Running on the Sprint network. No luck.
2 years, 6 months ago by Votu83
Sprint is CDMA so that is your problem rather than blocking, it's just incompatible with some European GSM services. Hang on in there I'm sure the Jaiku guys have a solution in the works.
A list of providers that are GSM and therefore should work in the US is below. Anything else no on the list i.e. Verizon Sprint etc are most likely CDMA/TDMA based and therefore not going to work.
Aerial (1900) Ameritech Cellular Services AT&T Wireless PCS, LLC Bellsouth Cincinnati Bell Wireless Cingular Wireless Eliska Wireless, Inc Eliska Wireless Ventures Nextel International (iDEN) Pac Bell PCS One Inc. Powertel Teleport Communications Group T-Mobile USA, Inc
2 years, 6 months ago by paulstringer
Cingular here.
2 years, 6 months ago by pottymouth
I give up.
No offense, but at least Twitter works right now. :(
2 years, 6 months ago by Tydna
I don't think twitter has as much potential as Jaiku to be a "lifecast" though.
2 years, 6 months ago by Carignan
Could there be a way that we're given a code on the website, and we then have to text that code FROM our phone to Jaiku? Might be a workaround for Verizon users, like me... (don't know if the messages will go the other way...)
2 years, 6 months ago by chronodin
@chronodin I think it's the same both ways for them unfortuantly, messages from CDMA/TDMA networks won't make it back to their number, they'll never receive it.
2 years, 6 months ago by paulstringer
Darn.
2 years, 6 months ago by chronodin
Customers? We don't need no stinking customers!
2 years, 6 months ago by sgreth
I've been speaking with with Ericsson IPX our service provider every day this week to speed up the shortcode acquisition process. But (as I'm sure you all know, from your dealings with the operators), they're not the most.... agile of commercial entities.
Before the shortcode has been activated, we can manually confirm your phone numbers and after that you will be able to text updates to your stream by texting our international number at +467374960501.
If you can receive texts from our international number, then you can activate SMS notifications by texting ON. Text OFF to stop notifications. We'll add the SMS notifications checkbox on the Web under Settings -> Notifications shortly.
Thanks for your patience everyone - this is our top concern. Andrew will be on call to do activations manually while I keep working on the shortcode.
2 years, 6 months ago by jyri
OK folks.
We don't have a good solution here yet - but we're working on it. Until we have a good one, here's what we can do.
If you're waiting on an activation message that never arrived, then email me - andrew@jaiku.com - with your cell number (as you provided it to us) and jaiiku username.
I'll manually 'fake' the activation process so you should be able to use the SMS functionality to at least post using SMS (but if your carrier's blocking messages from us, you still won't be able to get updates from your friends that way) while we wait for the carriers to activate the shortcode we've been trying to arrange for the last few months.
So. I expect to be hearing from you soon!
2 years, 6 months ago by malach
ThinkHammmer - the owners (and staff) use the service daily. We only use the jaiku account when we're talking on behalf of the company. If you'd rather hear from us more frequently, I'm sure that's something that can be arranged :)
2 years, 6 months ago by malach
SMS posting/receiving (not critical to me) is one area where Twitter is kickin' Jaiku's behind. I am a Verizon CDMA customer, and it just worked, from day one.
2 years, 6 months ago by rjeffries
It's the only area where Twitter is better. I like getting my friends twitters on my mobile. Something I miss with Jaiku.
2 years, 6 months ago by paddy
At least some of this pain will be addressed by my Jaiku Moblet I'm building. It should run on most J2ME phones as well as on Blackberry.
2 years, 6 months ago by raiglstorfer
rjefferies - that's the downside of Jaiku being a non-US based company. Annoyingly, the US cellular networks seem to be remarkably insular. I'm based in New Zealand, and both Jaiku and Twitter SMS services worked for me straight off.
2 years, 6 months ago by malach
imified.com may be a better solution for people unable to directly post to Jaiku via the SMS.
2 years, 6 months ago by jason
I've tested out IMified, and it works really nicely. Some good brain sweat went into that product :)
2 years, 6 months ago by malach
paddy: to start receiving Jaikus from your contacts and comments by SMS, text ON to Jaiku at +467374960501
SMS notifications are still in beta, we'll launch it on the Web site more visibly soon.
2 years, 6 months ago by jyri
comment notifications are temporary disabled for threads with more than 10 people in them (while we work on a proper unsubscribe feature), they'll still show in your overview page though.
also, activations can now be texted in (won't show up in the ui in the welcome process though) just send the 4 letter code back to jaiku
2 years, 6 months ago by termie
im on MTS wireless in manitoba canada mts.ca and its cdma and i have no go with jaiku but twitter works fine
2 years, 6 months ago by CiscoGeek
I'm with Telus in Ontario and I did not received the Jaiku activation message. Twitter works fine.
2 years, 6 months ago by fortrel
No activaty on Sprinty
2 years, 5 months ago by dvdchris
Sprint still dosen't work in the USA
2 years, 5 months ago by PhotoJoe
I use Rogers, GSM based system, but I don't think that a text message is dependent on the protocol , ie. GSM or CDMA. I think it is that some carriers have different delivery times
2 years, 5 months ago by sennawcf1
I couldn't say. Twitter and direct phone to phone texts are VERY fast. Less than a minute for phone>twitter>phone. Less than 10 seconds for phone>phone
2 years, 5 months ago by PhotoJoe
Finland is NOT supported by Sprint. Neither is Canada !!! http://support.sprint.com/sprinthelp/help.html?helpID=240
2 years, 5 months ago by sennawcf1
It's a complicated mess.. I know in the US.. CDMA and GSM carriers do not co-operate. That means throwing up walls till the courts tear them down. What happens in the rest of the world is a mystery to me. I do know that email seems to work everyplace.. perhaps an email gateway of same sort could fix all this? But, it would be a bit more work.. I have the luxury of having my own web site and can rss feeds to jaiku after email posting from my phone to my web site..
2 years, 5 months ago by dpotts
yes, I seem to have an issue with getting the activation message on my Verizon phone
2 years, 4 months ago by AmitElhanan
I think it has to do with spam blocking, I've requested Verizon allow Jaiku, but we should all do the same. At any rate, a work around may be to use your phones own email address to get updates to the phone. You'd do this by using the email address 5554449999@vzwpix.com (this is their MMS address, which supports larger messages than vtext.com which is purely sms). Now, why Jaiku can't just use the SMS gateway, I have no idea. Verizon and others have had this gateway in place for a long time.
2 years, 2 months ago by cyclops
I'm not receiving my activation message from Bell Canada. Is there any way around this? Also my phone appears to be unable to make a "+" character for SMS #'s.
1 year, 2 months ago by monkeyfaust
Same as above. I can't activate on a Bell Canada phone.
1 year ago by sarody